?

Log in

(no subject)

« previous entry | next entry »
Jun. 29th, 2010 | 12:39 pm

"There comes an hour in the afternoon when the child is tired of 'pretending'; when he is weary of being a robber or a Red Indian. It is then that he torments the cat. There comes a time in the routine of an ordered civilisation when the man is tired at playing at mythology and pretending that a tree is a maiden or that the moon made love to a man. The effect of this staleness is the same everywhere; it is seen in all drug-taking and dram-drinking and every form of the tendency to increase the dose. Men seek stranger sins or more startling obscenities as stimulants to their jaded sense. They seek after mad oriental religions for the same reason. They try to stab their nerves to life, if it were with the knives of the priests of Baal. They are walking in their sleep and try to wake themselves up with nightmares."

Link | Leave a comment | Share

Comments {17}

Jess

(no subject)

from: aphephobia
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 04:58 pm (UTC)
Link

Interesting quote-- where's it from?

I'm not sure I agree with it, personally-- I've always been into the darker side of human nature as an interest but it hasn't become me and I doubt it will.

That said, I think it could be argued that it does ring true for a number of people-- I think Ted Bundy said words to that effect regarding violent pornography and his own behaviour.


EDIT: Found it thanks to Google; interestingly enough, it was brought up in reference to a discussion about what seems to be Lord of the Rings fanfiction and someone having some religious guilt issues about visiting sites which host more explicit stuff. I'm still very "jury's out" on the quote itself, and it does seem to have some bias (particularly in relation to the reference to "mad oriental religions").

Edited at 2010-06-29 05:21 pm (UTC)

Reply | Thread

instead of stressed, lies here charmed

(no subject)

from: starsandtildes
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 05:27 pm (UTC)
Link

Re-tweeted from a friend, source is apparently the guy who Fiddler's Green in Sandman was based on? and I think focusing on the "mad Oriental religions" line (which I think is intended to reference stuff like the cults of Baal and Mithras, which even most of their contemporaries found rather D:-worthy, rather than modern eastern religion) is kind of missing the point ngl.

I don't think the quote itself true for every single person, no, but if you've ever read Yukio Mishima he recounts the phenomenon in his pseudobiography (it's the first example I could think of), and I've seen people who love their fantasy worlds get dragged deeper and deeper into them and they pretty much always get creepy. It's not to say you'll get dragged into it, but most people who do get into it start to make it way too much of their identity.

Reply | Parent | Thread

Jess

(no subject)

from: aphephobia
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 05:40 pm (UTC)
Link

Okay, fair point. Standing alone, and without cultural context, it skeeved me a bit because religion is a fairly subjective and personal thing.

I've seen people who love their fantasy worlds get dragged deeper and deeper into them and they pretty much always get creepy. It's not to say you'll get dragged into it, but most people who do get into it start to make it way too much of their identity.

I disagree with that: I think this could be the case with anything someone adopts as a major part of their identity, and allows to consume the rest of it. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that it's not just the fantasy world or "darker" subject matter that can become an obsession and start replacing someone's personality.

IMHO, a little self-awareness and separation of fantasy and reality is all it takes to stay on the non-crazy side. :) Zealots of any flavour are scary: even if they're for a "good" sounding cause (religion, parenting, politics, etc) if it becomes all there is of them, it's disturbing and unbalanced.

Reply | Parent | Thread

paperclipchains

(no subject)

from: paperclipchains
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 05:52 pm (UTC)
Link

wat

Reply | Thread

instead of stressed, lies here charmed

(no subject)

from: starsandtildes
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 05:56 pm (UTC)
Link

loving the icon, my basic point (that was probably pretty obscure) was that the more bored people get the loledgier they get?

Reply | Parent | Thread

paperclipchains

(no subject)

from: paperclipchains
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 11:10 pm (UTC)
Link

Somehow that makes the Gin icon even more appropriate.

Reply | Parent | Thread

THIS IS NOT SPINAL TAP

(no subject)

from: spinelsoup
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 07:18 pm (UTC)
Link

Well this certainly explain why the tamest canons have the creepiest porn.

Reply | Thread

instead of stressed, lies here charmed

(no subject)

from: starsandtildes
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 08:55 pm (UTC)
Link

hi Pokemon fandom

Reply | Parent | Thread

printer's ink and blood

(no subject)

from: jheti
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 08:35 pm (UTC)
Link

I had keysmashing to do but it boiled down to YOU REALIZE THERE IS NO ESCAPE THAT I ADORE YOU, DO YOU NOT.

Reply | Thread

instead of stressed, lies here charmed

(no subject)

from: starsandtildes
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 08:48 pm (UTC)
Link

Ironically, the original context was a post from a friend of a friend, the sole content of which was linking an article about Gaga and then posting the above quote.

y-you only love me for my mind ;A;

Reply | Parent | Thread

(Deleted comment)

instead of stressed, lies here charmed

(no subject)

from: starsandtildes
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 09:48 pm (UTC)
Link

well uh it's apparently from The Everlasting Man so I think you know this guy.

Reply | Parent | Thread

(Deleted comment)

instead of stressed, lies here charmed

(no subject)

from: starsandtildes
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 10:43 pm (UTC)
Link

well Meg that's like getting turned off from FMA by Roy/Ed fans

with all due respect to Roy/Ed fans

Reply | Parent | Thread

(Deleted comment)

instead of stressed, lies here charmed

(no subject)

from: starsandtildes
date: Jun. 29th, 2010 11:04 pm (UTC)
Link

so Chesterton is your Ranma 1/2?

Reply | Parent | Thread

(Deleted comment)
(Deleted comment)

instead of stressed, lies here charmed

(no subject)

from: starsandtildes
date: Jun. 30th, 2010 09:02 pm (UTC)
Link

I didn't say it was terrible, I said the fandom annoys the shit out of me and makes me never want to watch it no matter how good the show is.

I actually should have picked Gundam Wing but I know you like that too :(

Reply | Parent | Thread